tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181024902947380214.post4694000829404227739..comments2023-09-16T05:02:33.288-06:00Comments on McGowdoghouse: This BlogMcGowdoghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16866948381728741656noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181024902947380214.post-50421892006477928442011-04-16T20:30:47.128-06:002011-04-16T20:30:47.128-06:00Joe, a much belated 10-4!!!Joe, a much belated 10-4!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181024902947380214.post-29531189855128042152011-04-13T14:41:41.236-06:002011-04-13T14:41:41.236-06:00DILLIGAS?DILLIGAS?joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16266375123411463390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181024902947380214.post-33784795565300242532011-04-13T09:54:14.304-06:002011-04-13T09:54:14.304-06:00It has been brought to my attention that I made a ...It has been brought to my attention that I made a error in dating my time in the Corps. Let me at this time make the correction my enlistment date into the service was 1979 not 1976.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181024902947380214.post-13337368968626758062011-04-12T22:20:44.161-06:002011-04-12T22:20:44.161-06:00That I can believe.That I can believe.McGowdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16866948381728741656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181024902947380214.post-21597975188151806982011-04-12T22:16:00.773-06:002011-04-12T22:16:00.773-06:00"The grouch and the brainstorm are not for US..."The grouch and the brainstorm are not for US."<br /><br />I'm partial to "Pinky and The Brain." <br /><br />MA has kind of a pinkish glow to him and I will not rest until I have achieved world domination.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07815989546925727093noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181024902947380214.post-55864988017842227182011-04-12T20:57:59.025-06:002011-04-12T20:57:59.025-06:00There's my dog! I love real alcoholics being r...There's my dog! I love real alcoholics being real. Carry on.Rob Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13051571565294672514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181024902947380214.post-87383289685265133822011-04-12T20:01:43.621-06:002011-04-12T20:01:43.621-06:00Awwww. Can't you just feel the love....?Awwww. Can't you just feel the love....?joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16266375123411463390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181024902947380214.post-24826444905538271172011-04-12T19:56:34.643-06:002011-04-12T19:56:34.643-06:00Well thanks for the patience Danny.
I hope you do...Well thanks for the patience Danny.<br /><br />I hope you don't hold against me/us our respect to ftg and MA specifically about some of their anti/XA points.<br /><br />It's too easy to get carried away with fighting our detractors when you look at all of the claims the bunch of them make against us.<br /><br />I'm not here to concede that anything they say about any of us is true. Innocent till proven guilty. I also don't want to get into a Purity of Character with them.<br /><br />I want to stop the gossip and finking on our side of the street and who cares what they say. It sucks to not be able to defend/respond. So don't defend respond seems the only option. And if I'm really free, I can move forward with what's in front of me and ignore their jabs.<br /><br />They made claim you followed them to bully them. You may have just been defending directly, as you couldn't respond on ST. Don't know if that's the case or if they'll see it that way.<br /><br />I say leave them alone. Let them be sensitive. The grouch and the brainstorm are not for US.<br /><br />And ditto Bro. Be well. Pray and meditate on this stuff.<br /><br />To open the lines of communications to/with our adversary is a huge deal. What they do on their side of the fence is not our biz. We can learn more from them than our "allies". What page is that on?McGowdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16866948381728741656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181024902947380214.post-15100801371654702832011-04-12T17:40:31.966-06:002011-04-12T17:40:31.966-06:00Hey guys I mentioned my time in the Corps because ...Hey guys I mentioned my time in the Corps because of these comments:<br /><br />"McGowdog said... <br />Rob! "I couldn't resist"!<br /><br />Semper Fi Rob! Semper Fi!"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181024902947380214.post-52362521507379703822011-04-12T17:05:08.414-06:002011-04-12T17:05:08.414-06:00Well I don't normally create this big of a ruc...Well I don't normally create this big of a ruckus and really like the quite life...lol.<br />Patrick, love ya brother. Lets stop giving ST fodder to brag about. <br />Joe you are man of wisdom, I will concede to your words.<br />I apologize to everyone else for reading this shit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181024902947380214.post-70564405495067213122011-04-12T14:17:28.467-06:002011-04-12T14:17:28.467-06:00Oh, I see I misread that comment from Tony's b...Oh, I see I misread that comment from Tony's blog. He does indeed say that he left and then was banned. But, as you can see from the link, he was already on the blacklist.<br /><br />OK. Now I'm done.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07815989546925727093noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181024902947380214.post-38152778669666121962011-04-12T14:13:15.694-06:002011-04-12T14:13:15.694-06:00Ugh. I'm sorry about this:
Danny sez, "(...Ugh. I'm sorry about this:<br /><br />Danny sez, "(I wasn't banned I lefT, if Ftg can get honest she will corroborate this.)"<br /><br />I have the moment of his banning frozen in time in the comments section of the blog (unless that wasn't really him). Not that I expect anyone to bother with this crap, but just for the record:<br /><br />http://stinkin-thinkin.com/neverending-thread/comment-page-13/#comment-29705<br /><br />It started as a time-out, but became permanent when he "kept coming back" and then followed someone to another message board to harrass her and air his grievances about ST. <br /><br />Danny's saying here that he wasn't banned, but on TonyJ's blog he says,<br /><br />"heretikreb said...<br /><br /> Tony I would have to say that I am honored to finally make it to your blog. My username is Diablo and I too was banned as they say from ST. Actually I left then went onto another site and reamed Gunther and Sugomoms ass for being themselves. This got back to FTG and she just couldn't have this, got all hot and bothered and said I was banned. I'm good with that.<br /> Anyway, I joined your brothers blog McGowan and that lead me here.<br /> See ya around.<br /> March 6, 2011 2:40 PM "<br /><br /><br />(Also, I never banned Rotten Ralph!)<br /><br />OK, guys. I won't feed this drama anymore. This is the last time I'm going to address anything Danny says.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07815989546925727093noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181024902947380214.post-56807146326601694542011-04-12T12:34:36.346-06:002011-04-12T12:34:36.346-06:00One more thing Danny... about all the drama you...One more thing Danny... about all the drama you're going through and stuff. Please don't ask me to look into that shit and research any of that stuff.<br /><br />I'm not a fucking detective, nor am I a historian, nor am I a lawyer, nor am I a judge. I'm too fucking busy now with my job. My job is going well... I'm kicking ass, and I have more testing to do. I just don't have time for this.<br /><br />If anything, you should be apologizing to me/us for the drama this has caused us all. I offered you or anybody a chance to come clean with whatever the fuck and point your attention back at seeking sobriety for yourself and/or helping new drunks... wherever your/our strengths are. My expertise and talent is not with the new guy... but with the wayward chronic slipper.<br /><br />Did you really think we were solely here to fight ST and Orange and Stanton Peele? If so, I'll take the blame for that too. We recently changed our Mission Statement from what it once was. I guess we're more than part to blame with this mess we've got with Stinkin' Thinkin'.<br /><br />I don't expect anybody out there to align themselves with me. If there's something about me you don't get with... you cannot associate with, you vote with your feet. Any many do just that. Many stay away from me for probably many reasons. I'm too nasty, I'm too whatever.<br /><br />But this internet thing is just a supplement for me. My face-to-face world is exploding and I'm blessed beyond my wildest dreams now... and I'm gonna milk this sucker for all it's worth. If any of you are not in awe at the state of your universe now, I beg of you to walk away from your computer and go do what you should be doing... with God's help or whatever Power it is you appeal to.<br /><br />Now I've got to get back to studying.McGowdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16866948381728741656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181024902947380214.post-91418903636286366822011-04-12T12:08:54.958-06:002011-04-12T12:08:54.958-06:00Do whatever the fuck you want to Danny.
I don'...Do whatever the fuck you want to Danny.<br /><br />I don't need your fucking charity or your defense against ST or anybody. I was frankly "off the ranch" when I did that shit anyway. This blog isn't just about me. It's about some of my fellow colleagues that got kicked off of SR together but we still had a common goal... a common solution. <br /><br />So for me and some of us... it IS about lack of censorship. I would like to extend the branch to some of our adversaries and that's none of your fucking business either. Cope. If you can't, you're free to leave. I don't see any need to "kick" anybody off anything. I've got into verbal fights with some of my friends here. Just ask Rob and Jim. I've said some horrible things to them that I've regretted. They took it in with maturity and a just enough grace to piss me off. They said, "Get out a yellow pad, write my name in the first column, my offense in the second, and solve your problem in the 3rd because I ain't got one."<br /><br />You were a Marine, that's great. I'm proud of you and your service. Now I'd like to say, "At ease, soldier." The fight is over. God is my Master. Is He yours? I'm not going to hold being Catholic against you... nor do I hold it against my parents, LOL!<br /><br />Now I'd leave your "name" alone and not mention you... but you've got so goddamned many usernames, which ones do we have left? Which ones CAN we use?McGowdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16866948381728741656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181024902947380214.post-71636775786406093522011-04-12T10:53:40.951-06:002011-04-12T10:53:40.951-06:00Patrick wrote:
"I decided to bring Danny aboa...Patrick wrote:<br />"I decided to bring Danny aboard not because of his anti-Stinkin' Thinkin' stance, but because of his quest to express himself in a safe environment... free from censorship... and to eventually talk pro-recovery... not anti-ST. In other words, an enemy of our adversaries is not necessarily our friend... so to speak." <br /><br />2nd post<br />"I don't care about anybody's past. I don't care about your criminal record, your medical history, your political affiliation, your creed, the color of your skin, your gender, or your sexual preference. "We are not Saints". What I do care about is your current agenda... or lack thereof. If you're out there causing harm, preying on people, harming people, I ask you to step aside and clean that shit up. If you're an alcoholic and willing to come to terms with any of that, then there are some folks in here and me myself... that can attempt to help you with that."<br /><br />Patrick and fellow members,<br />I waited to think about what I would say concerning Patrick's judgmental comments (though he was sly)about me. All I could come up with is this. <br />Patrick, you want a new Mission Statement and direction, I say great. You don't want to fight with ST any more, beautiful. You want to find common ground, wonderful.<br />All I ask is don't talk about me or mention my name again when finding a reason for your change. <br />I am not your problem and never have been.<br />Your ignorance about my situation, accusations held against me, Elan, ect...is clear.<br />I don't prey, stalk or go out of my way to hurt anybody. For you to even infer this is grossly irresponsible and lazy. Do some research or refrain from making stupid comments based on biased information.<br />My agenda "HERE" has been as clear today as it was yesterday. Read the majority of my posts here.<br />I didn't come "HERE" for your charity or because I was fleeing from censorship. As a matter of fact I came here because you were getting your ass handed to you on a daily basis over on ST. Tony G. was in deep. I heard about your blog so I came over. Not because I was banned (I wasn't banned I lefT, if Ftg can get honest she will corroborate this.)<br />As far as I am concerned MA and FTG are fucking pigs and treat their adversaries (enemy) as such. I have read and witnessed what they have done to their own and their adversaries. But hey it is never their fault.<br /><br />Patrick, I have had my say now and I feel much better. If you choose to make this my last post here, that will be fine.<br />If I am still here because you choose to allow that then I would like to have no more references to any of which was posted on ST talked about again. <br />This is my personal business and life and it is not open for judgment.<br />This was not one my most spiritual posts of all time but hey!!! I get to receive communion Sunday so I should be fine. Sucks being Catholic...lol<br /><br />Semper Fi!!!!! I was a Marine from 1976 till 1988. Was a Gunny E-7 when I left. Special Ops Recon 1st MarDiv. ErrrRahhh!!!!!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181024902947380214.post-39806152775149597502011-04-12T06:10:48.992-06:002011-04-12T06:10:48.992-06:00You guys will have to show me the way of love and ...You guys will have to show me the way of love and tolerance, it will be interesting to see if we can all play nice together, time will tell. <br /><br />I agree we have more common ground with the XAers than most MOTR AA ers. That being said, we are people who normally wouldn't mix. We'll see how long this wave of good feelings lasts. Call me a skeptic.Rob Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13051571565294672514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181024902947380214.post-59762172825817755682011-04-12T02:37:40.807-06:002011-04-12T02:37:40.807-06:00Rob! "I couldn't resist"!
Semper F...Rob! "I couldn't resist"!<br /><br />Semper Fi Rob! Semper Fi!McGowdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16866948381728741656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181024902947380214.post-44891519101452211652011-04-11T22:54:22.064-06:002011-04-11T22:54:22.064-06:00Friend, as I said, I haven't read much of ST b...Friend, as I said, I haven't read much of ST but what I have seen leaves me with the impression that many members seem focused on only bashing AA. <br /><br />Yet I said further on in my comment that many of you will see what Patrick is trying to do here and will perhaps join us sometimes. You, MA and a few of the others (even Gunthar, God love him) who's comments I've read appear to be willing to listen to other views without going off the deep end. <br /><br />I seem to recall MA remarking that he accepts some responsibility for the current situation because of some inflammatory remarks he's made in the past. We're just as guilty. But it's time for this foolishness to stop. <br /><br />We both agree on a lot of things regarding AA and recovery in general. We also disagree on some points, but that's a good thing as disagreement leads to dialogue. I'll check out the comment you refer to and will get back to you on this blog about it. Hey, we have to begin somewhere.<br /><br />Thanks, Joejoehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16266375123411463390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181024902947380214.post-44937168011968703042011-04-11T21:36:44.759-06:002011-04-11T21:36:44.759-06:00Oh, I got through!
Let me try again:
Excellent ...Oh, I got through!<br /><br />Let me try again: <br /><br />Excellent post, McGow. I wish you well with your new direction.<br /><br />Joe, I wanted to address your comment about our unwillingness to dialog or find common ground with you all. Since you don't read ST, I'm sure you haven't seen the instances when we've said that we have some common ground with you Big Book guys. <br /><br />I'm not sure if I can leave a link, but I wanted to direct you to a comment I wrote last year. At the end of the comment, I detail all the points I think we have in common. (You'll see that didn't go over very well.) I hope you have a look at it though, because I think the comment might be a good kick off to a real dialog.<br /><br />You can find it on this thread: stinkin-thinkin. com/2010/03/04/denial/#comment-3957 <br /><br />(I added a space in the url, after "thinkin" in case it was the link that kept my comment from posting earlier.)<br /><br />If that doesn't lead you to the comment, the time stamp on the comment is March 5 2010 11:10<br /><br />Best, <br />ftgUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07815989546925727093noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181024902947380214.post-19180089313715610582011-04-11T21:28:57.625-06:002011-04-11T21:28:57.625-06:00Entertaining as this blog is to read and sometimes...Entertaining as this blog is to read and sometimes join in the stirring of the pot, it is clear you have sat with this Patrick and have uncovered some truth, maybe we can be more efficient if we share our experience with recovery and spiritual truth than ripping on the dipshits that don't see it our way (I couldn't resist). I say change the mission statement and see where it goes. Sometimes change is good and necessary.Rob Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13051571565294672514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181024902947380214.post-26652238764054686832011-04-11T21:27:29.181-06:002011-04-11T21:27:29.181-06:00McGow, I've been trying to leave a comment. Ev...McGow, I've been trying to leave a comment. Every time I end up on an error page...Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07815989546925727093noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181024902947380214.post-78205901517792912862011-04-11T21:22:55.629-06:002011-04-11T21:22:55.629-06:00Cyber Recovery? I forgot about that place. My cont...Cyber Recovery? I forgot about that place. My contributions to this blog have been sporadic at best. I found a place where I can engage in knock down-drag out battles on the internet and leave God and AA out of the mix. I have little or no desire to argue with or try to convince anyone of my beliefs nor do I have the desire to condemn anyone for their beliefs. So I do my debating elsewhere. <br /> Since you mentioned CR I went back over there and logged on. Going back through some previous posts I can see a change in my style over the last few years. Not for the better either. Previous posts were well thought out and there was meaningful content. These days it's about quantity. Maybe it's time to take a step back and collect myself and gather my thoughts before I type. As My Original Sponsor told me "Think twice, write once" Perhaps I forgot. Seems I forgot a lot of things. Like who I am, what I am and where I came from. In doing so it's possible to find myself right back. <br /> Twenty seven years ago I went to my first AA meeting. I was escorted in wearing an orange jump suit and handcuffs. That's another story for another time. I too took the attitude of the adversaries of AA. My pride wouldn't allow me to admit defeat in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. To this day I would like a mulligan but all I get is the chance to tell my story in hopes of connecting with a young thick headed punk like I once was. <br /> An analogy in the subject matter dictates we're still trying to fight a fight we can't win. Like alcoholics, jaywalkers and fools who battle ST. The parallels are stunning.Cudahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10715886327591788158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181024902947380214.post-75201437314330306202011-04-11T20:37:47.156-06:002011-04-11T20:37:47.156-06:00Give everyone some time to digest this, Patrick. I...Give everyone some time to digest this, Patrick. It's a pretty serious topic. Changing the mission statement is easy, either we agree or disagree. <br /><br />I've got a hunch that most will agree that change is much needed, and that your proposed direction is a good one. But what the new mission statement should entail may take some thought. Be patient. You'll hear from the rest of them.joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16266375123411463390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181024902947380214.post-10225176116358415492011-04-11T20:16:45.713-06:002011-04-11T20:16:45.713-06:00Test
Are comments getting through?
Sometimes it ...Test<br /><br />Are comments getting through?<br /><br />Sometimes it takes a day to show up on the list, but it shows up after the post ASAP.McGowdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16866948381728741656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181024902947380214.post-25345839239127428732011-04-11T12:30:26.418-06:002011-04-11T12:30:26.418-06:00Amen! As I’ve said from the time I first got here,...Amen! As I’ve said from the time I first got here, I’d rather not waste my time getting into pissing contests with those who spend their time attacking AA. I feel no need to defend the program. I wholeheartedly agree with the fact that AA doesn’t work for everyone. <br /><br />From what I’ve read on ST (admittedly not much), our little friends there don’t, for the most part, seem willing to engage in any rational conversation. To do so, it requires both parties to recognize the validity of the other’s beliefs. Not the accuracy, just the validity. From most of the posts I’ve read there these people don’t seem capable of that recognition. <br /><br />Stanton Peele and agent Orange have already been the topic of one of my posts. I won’t waste time here re-hashing my opinion of either person or their agenda.<br /><br />Now, having said all that, I would dearly love to see some intelligent arguments on this forum about AA. There’s certainly a lot about the program that I don’t like, and I’ve made my views known. A lot of these views are consistent with those of the anti/ex-AA crowd. <br /><br />And there are a lot of folks who I like to read (Danny S is one) in the pro AA crowd who would be great to get some dialogue going with. A few new folks in SR should be invited to comment here also. I really believe that we’d attract a far wider reader audience if we got away from the attack/defend posture. There’s been some good stuff started on this blog in the past few months, but it’s often very short lived. The main attraction always seems to focus back on ST or SR. We need to get away from that. <br /><br /><br />So if you want to change the mission statement, Patrick, I agree 100%. We don’t have to defend AA; it doesn’t need us for that. Let’s have a blog about AA, warts and all. Let’s talk about what’s good and what’s not so good. Let’s talk about our experiences, let’s talk about our problems. And let’s listen. <br /><br />We’ve talked a lot about fighting the battle of keeping AA the way it was designed to be in the Big Book by fighting down at the street level. That’s where we need to look at program from. That’s where this blog should be-down at the street level.<br /><br />If someone has a horror story, let’s hear about it. But there has to be some sort of quality control here, also. I don’t want to hear about rumors or innuendos, legends about 13th steppers or any of that shit without some sort of verification as to it’s accuracy. There’s too much of that going on at ST. <br /><br /><br />Keep in mind that it’s OK for people not to like us. If we want a reputable blog about AA, alcoholism and recovery we can’t make it personal. If we make it personal, then we take it personal when someone disagrees. Then it’s back to the pissing contests once again. And I don’t get into pissing contests.<br /><br />I can imagine the cries of victory from some of our little friends when they find out what you’re doing. Others over there will see the wisdom of it and drop in once in a while. Whether we agree or not, their opinions should be respected. As should ours.<br /><br />So go for it!joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16266375123411463390noreply@blogger.com