tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181024902947380214.post8194574278330947764..comments2023-09-16T05:02:33.288-06:00Comments on McGowdoghouse: Do XAers mean us no harm?McGowdoghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16866948381728741656noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181024902947380214.post-74654304728696000852010-06-15T12:03:47.134-06:002010-06-15T12:03:47.134-06:00Click on the link "The Staying Power of A.A. ...Click on the link "The Staying Power of A.A. to mix it up with some of the Stinkin' Thinkin'/xposeAA folks.McGowdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16866948381728741656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181024902947380214.post-44628860641355551462010-06-14T21:45:50.108-06:002010-06-14T21:45:50.108-06:00You know. Strangley enough they always refer to th...You know. Strangley enough they always refer to the "Religion" aspect but as soon as you whack that mole they bring up activity in club meetings where God is almost never discussed.<br />If He is people get up and walk out. <br />In my experience Club Meetings draw the bulk of the Court Orders. Therefore they aren't really exposed to the religious aspect. <br />Then you tell them that every one of those Court Orders goes to AA as part of an "Agreement" <br />Maybe they should stay in Jail. <br />That would shut The Three Musketees of Misinformation right the hell up.<br />Nah. Probably not!Karlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02162857810066427815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181024902947380214.post-68576033963021021262010-06-14T10:45:31.239-06:002010-06-14T10:45:31.239-06:00I intentionally toss in a misspelled or incorrect ...I intentionally toss in a misspelled or incorrect word as a special tidbit for those folks to jump on.<br />It gives them a sense of acomplishment in a world where ther really aren't acomplishing anything else.<br /><br />Here's my last example. It's been a while so it's probably time for another one.<br />I got this one from Jethro Bodine himself.<br /><br />"Now, I am assuming that by the word “cipher”, Cuda actually meant “decipher”. I mean, that would really be stupid to cipher it. Right? Sure. Of course, it doesn’t really require deciphering",<br /><br />Like said. If nothing else at least he got one thing in his response.<br /><br />Don't feel bad MA! Speedy falls for it too.<br /><br />Here's where he went wrong. Too bad he hides over there where we can't engage.<br /><br />"I can understand what Cuda is trying to say in the fact that AA is offered as an alternative to jail.<br /><br />The problem arises when they are not given a choice, which happens in many places". <br /><br />Wrong again. It often starts with "As a condition of your probation" or Jail time is suspended.... <br /><br />Always. I defy you to show me an instance where it isn't.<br />Of course I'll add this to the list of things you choose to ignore.<br /><br />I've been waiting for this one just the same as everything else.<br /><br />"MA<br />**I will have part II of this three part series, titled “I’d just as well shoot myself than to have you strip search me: A Lesson in the Second and Fourth Amendments”, in the next few days".<br /><br />Of course you can always hide under the covers instead. <br />Maybe it'll go away.Karlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02162857810066427815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181024902947380214.post-7314831700132304872010-06-13T20:42:34.318-06:002010-06-13T20:42:34.318-06:00Thanks Tony.
I see they've been dragging Rob ...Thanks Tony.<br /><br />I see they've been dragging Rob through the coals for cleaning off his side of the street and... going out of their way to correct his spelling;<br /><br />MA: <br /><br />to [sic]<br /><br />Yup! That's right MA. Rob should have spelled it "too"... as in "also". We get it. Very good job. You get the gold star for the day.<br /><br />They've been trashing me about David R. Hawkins too. At least one person appreciates my Hawkins rants. Someone... well actually a couple of people on another forum who know that logic and reason are but tools, not ultimate reality.McGowdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16866948381728741656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181024902947380214.post-77609562587161862082010-06-13T20:17:28.298-06:002010-06-13T20:17:28.298-06:00I don't know who Kathryn is, but I think AAHat...I don't know who Kathryn is, but I think AAHater is Bugsworth, aka Madeline.<br /><br />Kathryn sounds like she drinks Manhattans and smokes Lucky Strikes.McGowdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16866948381728741656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181024902947380214.post-62641996671883146112010-06-13T20:05:22.093-06:002010-06-13T20:05:22.093-06:00Good luck on you job Dawg.
I posted well...I thou...Good luck on you job Dawg.<br /><br />I posted well...I thought I did.<br /><br />Anyway. <br /><br />Who the hell is Kathryn ?<br /><br />I should introduce her to Mike.<br /><br />They can both be on the rag together.Tony Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06015153103133728577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181024902947380214.post-15217697147343658312010-06-13T20:02:12.072-06:002010-06-13T20:02:12.072-06:00"Ben Franklin says
I hesitated to post this..."Ben Franklin says <br /><br />I hesitated to post this but after posters here were commenting about how reasonable Rob was I felt I needed to set the record straight. I didn’t want Rob, Mcgow and the racist Tony J to to get boners and do a circle jerk over all the attention they were getting. They will probably get blisters on their hands now."<br /><br />Come on now, Ben Franklin. You ARE the pivot man in the circle jerk.<br /><br />You don't like David R. Hawkins, huh? That's because you are against the spiritual approach. Once you get past the kinesiology and calibrations and stuff, he's got some interesting viewpoints.<br /><br />You can trash my mentor David all over the internet if you wish. I cannot do anything but come to my own conclusions about the guy. But in the mean time, I'm enjoying his works. He puts things in a way that makes sense to me. The religions of the world and their actions make no sense to me. Hawkins does a good job of describing why the world is the way it is and why religions of the world have done what they've done... what they've done wrong and right.<br /><br />Like he says, there's two types of atheists; those who hate God and the idea of life ending with a trapdoor to hell and those who don't hate God, but just don't think there needs to be a God to explain the universe... the Infinite.McGowdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16866948381728741656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181024902947380214.post-73611250234597323982010-06-13T19:25:20.060-06:002010-06-13T19:25:20.060-06:00Sorry that you of all people got attacked on this ...Sorry that you of all people got attacked on this blog Rob. On SR, here and elsewhere, we don't see enough of you. You'd been on SR for years... at least 3, maybe 4 years and in all that time, you left with about 746 posts... just off the top of my head. That's an average of about 0.5 posts per day? You are anything but a pompus ass and all you do is tell the truth and don't sell out. But you are proAA and pro God, so... you will be judged harshly by people who either hate God or people who are offended by the hard work you speak of.<br /><br />Now... I hear some chatter about us over at ST. I've been away from my computer this weekend, but I see we have a thread highlighting our blog over there... and some comments about how our blog is to vent about their blog and how we don't care about their blog.<br /><br />Bottom line is, we have the freedom to do what we want over here. We cannot post over there. They have the first, middle and last word over there.<br /><br />I don't even need to read that post over there. It'll go something like this; Rob, McGowdog, Karl, TonyJ, etc. are a bunch of proAA whackos and they are bad and we are smart and good.McGowdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16866948381728741656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181024902947380214.post-89901195741955567662010-06-13T15:29:40.002-06:002010-06-13T15:29:40.002-06:00And another thing MA
How can you take the 2% of th...And another thing MA<br />How can you take the 2% of the idiots that go to club meetings and broad brush the entire program?<br />In my opening response to this post I stated I've never seen anything near the likes of what's mentioned by you and your Disciples.<br />I outright accused you and your loyal followers of making shit up in order to add fuel to your accusations that All AA is evil. <br />Well, you're full of shit!<br />You're Lemmings are full of shit too!<br />The best way to prove to yourself and cronies that you're not is to totally ignore what's being said over here.<br />Good strategy.<br />Unless you're willing to answer my simple questions.Karlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02162857810066427815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181024902947380214.post-57079888137751208452010-06-13T12:05:20.412-06:002010-06-13T12:05:20.412-06:00"On the occasions where they venture outside ..."On the occasions where they venture outside of the AA boundaries, where normal rules of discourse apply; and techniques like passive aggressiveness, ad hominem attacks and shut down slogans don’t work – they are at a loss, and respond like an angry child on a playground. They cannot understand that the dogma and manipulation tactics that they thrive on in AA, do not work for those of us not under the spell".<br /><br /><br />MA, you fool!! Your entire site is comprised of manipulation, Ad homineim attacks, lies, half truths and fear.<br />When confronted, ignore the fact staring you right in the face.<br /><br />Question one was asked.<br /><br />Why hasn't something that works better dwarfed AA. After all, they've had 75 years to do it.<br /><br /><br />Your Answer: Ignore <br /><br />Question two was asked.<br /><br />Where is your concern for the Second amendment right?? <br />After all, your right to own a gun is a guaranteed "right" isn't it?? <br />A Constitutional Right has been reduced to a "Privelege" <br /><br />Same with Amendment 4<br />Why can a PO come to your workplace or home and "Inspect" you at any time?<br /><br />Seems your 4th amendment right is now a "Privelege"<br /><br />Your answer: Ignore<br /><br />I can tell you that you have no concern whatsoever for our Constitunal Rights.<br />It's just another mole that pops up when we slam the last one.<br /><br /><br />Here's another one.<br />"It’s like reasoning with a person who has schizophrenia, and trying to convince them the voices they hear in their head is not real. It’s a pointless exercise in futility". <br /><br />So says the schitzo guy that devotes so much of his time to something that really doesn't concern him in the first place.<br />You probably sleep with a night light to keep the imaginary AA bogeyman from 13th stepping you.<br /><br />So why not tell the real truth in your quest for justice instead of fabrications??<br /><br />Your answer: Ban them from ST<br />Second Answer: Delete the link in the resentment list so nobody knows about this place. You may lose your following if you do.Karlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02162857810066427815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181024902947380214.post-88525492207308813582010-06-13T09:52:34.592-06:002010-06-13T09:52:34.592-06:00Sorry FTG, I had to respond here since you don'...Sorry FTG, I had to respond here since you don't have the guts to let me respond there.<br /><br />"Spiritually awakened AAs smugly gloating over someone’s struggle to get off the sauce? Why, I’m shocked! Completely ignoring AA’s own embarrassing, dismal statistics? Never"!<br /><br />You have a warped perspective<br />Nobody is gloating over anyones struggle. <br />Just pointing out the stupidy of someone among your ranks bashing something that actually does work for other people without having one of their own.<br />Maybe you should add "Armchair Quarterbacking" to the list of infractions that send someone to the Dunce Room.<br /><br />I'm certain you'll write your own book some day.<br />I'm expecting 163 pages with lies and misinformation about AA with "Just Quit" somewhere in the middle.<br />Seems "Just Quit" isn't working for "K"<br />Maybe someday you can also have a 96% failure rate just like we do.<br />Maybe when you unwarp your perspective you'll see that we can't have 2 million members and also have a 96% failure rateKarlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02162857810066427815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181024902947380214.post-79751981705892395262010-06-13T08:09:56.053-06:002010-06-13T08:09:56.053-06:00You are right Kathryn, I've got some growing u...You are right Kathryn, I've got some growing up to do. I did my best to make amends over there. <br /><br />I apologize to all who had the displeasure of reading my recent toxic rants here, it's not the man I want to be.<br /><br />I am done with internet recovery and blogging. Take care, for the guys on this site, you have my e-mail, I will check that from time to time, but it is time for me to unplug from cyber space and get busy living in the real world. Peace.Rob Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13051571565294672514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181024902947380214.post-16350532103323272442010-06-12T09:17:42.823-06:002010-06-12T09:17:42.823-06:00This comment has been removed by the author.Rob Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13051571565294672514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181024902947380214.post-22783431523029061752010-06-11T11:57:51.990-06:002010-06-11T11:57:51.990-06:00Whatever happened to your buddy Marcus? Can you b...Whatever happened to your buddy Marcus? Can you bring him by here and see if he wants authorship?<br /><br />If you guys want to fire away, feel free. I know y'all are probably busy with family, jobs, etc. I'm getting kind of busy too.<br /><br />Work is picking up a little bit, but I'm in line for a nice city job too. Scored a 97% on the test and this puts me in line for not the first opening, but the second one.<br /><br />Wish me luck.McGowdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16866948381728741656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181024902947380214.post-53792731837828149772010-06-10T07:46:49.604-06:002010-06-10T07:46:49.604-06:00I hadn't heard from Tony in a while, but have ...I hadn't heard from Tony in a while, but have seen him posting on another blog.<br /><br />Hope all is well with Jim and his family. Prayers to them.McGowdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16866948381728741656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181024902947380214.post-32895900289246216862010-06-10T05:54:12.365-06:002010-06-10T05:54:12.365-06:00This comment has been removed by the author.Rob Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13051571565294672514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181024902947380214.post-9885041193952111812010-06-09T23:37:23.570-06:002010-06-09T23:37:23.570-06:00OK... I'm doing this in honor of MA, ftg, and ...OK... I'm doing this in honor of MA, ftg, and Speedy ok... <br /><br />Here goes...<br /><br />I didn't go to a meeting today and I didn't pray so that God could spend more time helping those get that fuckup in the Gulf fixed.<br /><br />But if it's not done by Thursday morning, that's it. I'm going back to my meeting and I'm taking God back with me.McGowdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16866948381728741656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181024902947380214.post-75798081114722702642010-06-09T22:11:27.600-06:002010-06-09T22:11:27.600-06:00"K" says "To add to MAs point, alco..."K" says "To add to MAs point, alcoholics often have underlying issues schizophrenia, bipolar, PTSD, sexual abuse problems. Telling them they are spiritual sick and God has deserted is sickest thing of alltime".<br /><br /><br />More drunken posting from outer space.<br />"K" is now a Psychiatrist with a .125 BAC<br />Imagine that.<br /><br />I would also like to see where AA claims that God deserted anyone.<br />It's more like we deserted God.<br />But who cares what the book says? <br />Making shit up is a lot more gratifying.Karlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02162857810066427815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181024902947380214.post-38292516778532959072010-06-09T21:40:30.067-06:002010-06-09T21:40:30.067-06:00Rob, they took our blog off their "Resentment...Rob, they took our blog off their "Resentment List" favs, then ftg told me that I'm banned from there, as is Tony J and Cuda, and they fart in our general direction.<br /><br />I've had a hard time playing it straight over there and usually just went in there like a bull in a china closet and I almost fit in... in a sick sort of way. But how else are you going to communicate with some 15 anti/XAers without either getting attacked or snarked to death?<br /><br />Although K can't seem to put a sentence together, you had her uttering complet phrases... sort of. She must like you. You must have given her female wood or something. All I ever got out of her was "Sod off".<br /><br />Now, when I first met TonyJ, he was over at this ongoing blog over here where there's a lot more civility and a lot more balance. You get to hear what our detractors are saying, but the posts are delayed quite a bit and heavily moderated by the host, Dr. D. Check it out if you get a chance. It's at http://www.mentalhelp.net/poc/view_doc.php?type=doc&id=9527&cn=14 .McGowdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16866948381728741656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181024902947380214.post-79464581349486489842010-06-09T20:31:18.624-06:002010-06-09T20:31:18.624-06:00Ha! I feel your pain. They are just the kind of ...Ha! I feel your pain. They are just the kind of folks that would have some real fire and maybe be effective with new drunks.<br /><br />Last I saw, you had posted a reasonable post to them, stating you agree with some of their claims, how we are more alike than they may want to admit, then you said, "play nice".<br /><br />Did they not play nice?McGowdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16866948381728741656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181024902947380214.post-47776878520092149692010-06-09T15:50:58.494-06:002010-06-09T15:50:58.494-06:00This comment has been removed by the author.Rob Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13051571565294672514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181024902947380214.post-65888801710126421632010-06-08T19:00:53.624-06:002010-06-08T19:00:53.624-06:00Doggone it. I can't delete one of my comments...Doggone it. I can't delete one of my comments without wiping out the whole thing.<br /><br />Anywho... Yeah, I know what you mean. I've been to some meetings where I feel like standing up and telling people to shut their fucking mouths. There have been meetings where I make funny faces to certain people when they look at me just to make them laugh and otherwise act like a retard because I'm bored. <br /><br />But I've never been forced to sell amway, peddle my ass on the street for money or drugs, never joined a "cult"... you know... the "other cults besides A.A.?... I've never had a sponsor do any more to me besides get in my face and tell me shit about me that I didn't want to hear... like, "Quit fucking around and get that inventory/those amends done", or "This is how you chair a fucking meeting", or "This is how you share in meetings"... stuff like "Get a watch, wear it, and use it... be on fucking time." You know, stuff that helps you, not stuff that harms you.<br /><br />And how can A.A. not work, unless you were hustled into A.A. and not even be a real alcoholic? <br /><br />What does a little religious endoctrination or a little bit of spiritual discipline do to cause harm to the atheist, anyway? If they don't believe the shit, then what is the Lord's Prayer going to do to harm them? Fucking honestly? Our Father, not the one who left for work on Monday morning and never showed up at home again... but the One who gave us two eyeballs, five toes, two ears, etc... who art in Heaven... a nice place I hear... Hallowed be Thy name. Thy Kingdom come, Thy Will be done... in (not "on" stupifucks... look it up)earth as it is in Heaven... and forgive us our trespasses... AS we forgive those who trespass against us... and then a little discussion about the future and that's it.<br /><br />You don't even have to do the prayer... like if you're a heathen or something.<br /><br />What the hell are these people so bent out of shape about? Are they just fucking with us? Bored?McGowdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16866948381728741656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181024902947380214.post-6265936403691245532010-06-08T18:45:21.242-06:002010-06-08T18:45:21.242-06:00Karl said...
I don't know about you but I'...Karl said... <br />I don't know about you but I've been to too many meetings to count. I'm sure you have too.<br /><br />I can honestly say that in the countless meetings I've been to I've never seen anything like these people have in the dozen meetings they've been to.<br />I think they're making shit up.<br />Much like those in AA that have no idea what the book says, they make shit up.<br />So therefore if you have no idea what the truth really is, make shit up.<br />Regardless of what side of the fence you're on. <br />Somebody will probably believe you.<br />These perpetual liars over at ST might think they know what's going on, but they don't.<br />They just have a bunch of other lemmings believing the shit they make up.<br />And to think. They call us weak minded.<br />Go figure! <br /><br />June 7, 2010 5:25 PM <br /><br />Post a Comment<br /><br /><br /><br />Newer Post Older Post Home <br />Subscribe to: Post Comments (Atom)McGowdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16866948381728741656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181024902947380214.post-89499926141582370812010-06-08T17:10:22.964-06:002010-06-08T17:10:22.964-06:00I don't know about you but I've been to to...I don't know about you but I've been to too many meetings to count. I'm sure you have too.<br /><br />I can honestly say that in the countless meetings I've been to I've never seen anything like these people have in the dozen meetings they've been to.<br />I think they're making shit up.<br />Much like those in AA that have no idea what the book says, they make shit up.<br />So therefore if you have no idea what the truth really is, make shit up.<br />Regardless of what side of the fence you're on. <br />Somebody will probably believe you.<br />These perpetual liars over at ST might think they know what's going on, but they don't.<br />They just have a bunch of other lemmings believing the shit they make up.<br />And to think. They call us weak minded.<br />Go figure!Karlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02162857810066427815noreply@blogger.com