tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181024902947380214.post9122371103586536638..comments2023-09-16T05:02:33.288-06:00Comments on McGowdoghouse: Seen In The GrapeVineMcGowdoghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16866948381728741656noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181024902947380214.post-2497150278768451432010-12-28T18:40:35.061-07:002010-12-28T18:40:35.061-07:00I suppose it is rather useless to even bring this ...I suppose it is rather useless to even bring this stuff up about the GrapeVine, GSO, etc. There is really no way to win the "battle," because things aren't going to change. But I'll admit that I get a certain satisfaction out getting a rise out of the service lemmings.<br /><br />I don't think it is possible to stay entirely under the radar in Alcoholics Anonymous and still be useful. And if we are doing "our job," some people aren't going to like us.<br /><br /><br />As for the ego, it is neither good nor bad. In fact it can be pretty useful. It only gets me in trouble when it becomes the servant and not the master.Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00211168798498974739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181024902947380214.post-39750065470335356682010-12-28T07:33:01.407-07:002010-12-28T07:33:01.407-07:00The question is, Why do I engage in these useless ...The question is, Why do I engage in these useless battles? The ego fights for existence, for recognition, for approval. It's really tough to just "let it go" sometimes.<br />It's sort of a Catch-22; how does one stay under the radar and yet be available to those who really need help? <br /><br />This is an excellent question, one that I sit with a lot, not so much the why, I know why just as you do, ego...plain and simple.<br />the question for me is how can I help the drunk that still suffers? I try to trust God and go where I am guided, I am ok with this for right now, however, I always have this feeling that I could be of more service somehow, some way, maybe that's ego too?<br />HOpe ou guys had a good holiday.Rob Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13051571565294672514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181024902947380214.post-46862168511817267462010-12-27T21:08:40.234-07:002010-12-27T21:08:40.234-07:00Hey guys, happy holidays.
I'll tell you, the ...Hey guys, happy holidays.<br /><br />I'll tell you, the one thing I'm learning from engaging the anti-AA crowd is that AA is a radical program.<br /><br />I guess I knew that at first but I too got to that point of hopelessness and haven't really looked back.<br /><br />When I see guys doing anything to keep the illusion of control it does make me remember that I'm different on some basic level now. I can still get caught up in the bullshit, of course, but I know in my heart it's not real. That's the difference. <br /><br />The MOTR and Anti-AA's still have hope. <br /><br />Hey, whatever works for them is fine with me. But I remember the weight of the world coming off my shoulders after doing my 3rd step. That was good stuff.Tony Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06015153103133728577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181024902947380214.post-53466857504121450922010-12-27T11:55:28.276-07:002010-12-27T11:55:28.276-07:00Experience has shown me that we are not popular.
...Experience has shown me that we are not popular. <br /><br />What we do goes against the very ego within people whom attempt it... the very ego that fights and denies it.<br /><br />It is from my ego that I cannot understand why we aren't more well received and why there are those who hate and prosecute us. I sometimes get judged fairly for my bad behavior, to be for sure... but I'm being judged for doing the same exact things as my adversaries dismiss in themselves... time and time again.<br /><br />The question is, Why do I engage in these useless battles? The ego fights for existence, for recognition, for approval. It's really tough to just "let it go" sometimes.<br /><br />It's sort of a Catch-22; how does one stay under the radar and yet be available to those who really need help?McGowdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16866948381728741656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181024902947380214.post-63996573947544023162010-12-27T08:24:27.208-07:002010-12-27T08:24:27.208-07:00"In that respect alcohol was the Great Persua..."In that respect alcohol was the Great Persuader..."<br /><br />I recently got an email from a fellow who used to be on SR. He was one of those who tried to mix in a secular approach and say it was him working "His A.A. Program." Needless to say, he couldn't get and stay sober and the nice folks on SR just kept on reinforcing his bullshit and loving him to death. Several months after we were all banned. I got an email from him asking for help. Then we ended chatting on Gmail chat when he was drunk. I can't remember what I said to him, hell I'd forgotten that we had even chatted. In his recently email he told me that he is four months sober and thanked me for chatting with him while he was drunk. He told me that it was booze that drove him to the point of giving up his ideas of what "His program" should look like and just giving in and getting a Big Book sponsor in A.A.<br /><br />Over the last eleven months since getting banned from SR I think I've got more requests for help from people on that forum than when I was on there myself.Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00211168798498974739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181024902947380214.post-23867702899956214852010-12-27T01:46:23.744-07:002010-12-27T01:46:23.744-07:00Good post Jim. I would have to say with me, chron...Good post Jim. I would have to say with me, chronic slipper that I was... got my bout with hopelessness from my last round with booze. <br /><br />I knew the book pretty well at the time... but was missing something with relation to that hopelessness.McGowdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16866948381728741656noreply@blogger.com