By MA – November 8, 2010
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Quote of the Day
“The deal with AA is that we don’t give a conception of God. Whatever conception you have is good enough to start. It is vital though, that one be convinced that they are alcoholic. Then we move on to the God thing.”
Jim, an AA and two-hatter, pulling the AA bait and switch routine on a “prospect.”
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humanspirit says Stepper mendacity and deceitfulness revealed. What about all the people whose “conception of God” is that there is no such thing as God?
And even for those who do believe in God – how is the 12-step program supposed to help them stop drinking?
November 8, 2010, 3:43 pm true believer says It does not matter to the AA weather or not I AM an alcoholic, it only matters that I am convinced that I am. Then the AA can CONVINCE me that turning my will and life over to the program will provide solutions and serenity. Classic AA dung-vine mind control cult bull crap!
November 8, 2010, 3:52 pm true believer says Whoops… WHETHER
November 8, 2010, 3:53 pm SoberPJ says OK, so I need a god to relieve me of the desire to drink. I have seen where a real alcoholic had a desire to drink and I gave him a sandwich instead and his desire to drink went away for a while. I’m confused. Am I god, or is the sandwich god?
McGowdog says, "No, Sober PJ. You're a fucking idiot and a fucking liar. Remember?"
November 8, 2010, 4:20 pm humanspirit says @SoberPJ Think it’s probably you that’s god rather than the sandwich. In which case it’s your damn fault that the person you mention is an alcoholic in the first place.
November 8, 2010, 4:33 pm tintop says SR eh? The very model of model major woo
Man, they are having to dig deep. Let them have their fun.
ReplyDeleteJim, try clicking on your name up there and see if anything's "different" for you. It was for me.
ReplyDeleteYou mean clicking my name on ST?
ReplyDeleteI saw that post, I wrote a scathing response back and then thought better of it, Jim doesn't need defending, none of us do, we know our truth, they know theirs. They really are having to dig deep to find material, how long has it been since we've all been banned...
ReplyDeleteBTW. Pueblo looks nice, maybe I'll visit some day, I'd like to meet a polite thug.
No Jim, you can do the one on this post and avoid going over there.
ReplyDeleteYeah, I can't believe they call Jim a two-hater anyway... like it's there business. Meanwhile, you've got Raysny who brags about being Mr. Counselor and how he drives people/saves people from A.A.
Pueblo would love to have you Rob. If you come here, look me up.
It takes me to the SR website, which my IP is banned from.
ReplyDeleteJust out of curiosity I went over and read it. Same mindless spew, different day. Are the good folks over at ST ever going to come up with some new material? Or are they still entertained by old drivel over and over. Same as my cat and the string that he never gets tired of playing with.
ReplyDeleteOh well! Simple minds.
I love the perspective a new day brings, a lot of the time I get a kick out of the drivel at ST, other times it pisses me off, particularly when they attack my friends, they recently tore up a buddy of mine from Boston, Dave Perry, this guy does more 12 step work than anyone I know, he is as good an AA member as I have ever met.
ReplyDeleteThat being said, this is all my problem, I think the vast majority of folks at ST are schmucks, yet I go over there, get pissed off and have to do some spiritual work to get free. Who's the schmuck? For an educated man, I'm pretty dense sometimes.
Kind of like the guy that likes to keep running out in front buses and fire trucks.
ReplyDeleteThat is why I didn't linger long over there. Also why I rarely lurk on SR.
I was just talking to my sponsor's sponsor about some of the anti-AA, 'need to moderate' people. I told him, I can believe a guy came to AA for 15 years and isn't an alcoholic, but when the guy gets pissed off that he missed 15 years of drinkin I get a little suspect.
ReplyDeleteHe just laughed. He said, once the switch is turned on, it's on. They drank and now it's on.
I was like...shit, yeah. I pretty much forgot about that twisted rationalizing I did back in the day.
Looking at the anti-AA/moderation movement from the perspective that they're just drunks who aren't done drinking yet seems to make more sense then assuming they're all sober and mad at AA. As stupid as that sounds, it's how I was looking at them.
Duh on me.