Power

How do you obtain Power? When and if you receive Power, how do you use it?

In the spiritual realm, we are all connected. So when I am succeeding, the world is blessed.

There's nothing wrong with, nor is there anything selfish about my needs being met. When I'm receiving Power and using it to solve my problem, all my problems get solved and then not only am I available to help/serve you... but I'm also not some schmuck standing at an intersection begging you for booze money.

God Bless Aurora Colorado today

Domestic terrorism struck an Aurora Colorado movie theater today.

God Bless the family and friends of the deceased, speedy recovery to the injured, and rip to the victims.

Lord's Prayer and the existence of alcoholic Jews

Yup, I'll admit it.  Sober Recovery forums inspired this topic.  Forgive me if you will.

My take?  It's a Christian prayer.  If it's in the group conscience to say it at the end of the meeting, who are you to bitch about it?  If you don't like the prayer, shut the bleep up, vote with your feet, and go form your anti-Christ meeting someplace else.

Instead of getting into the A.A. traditions and the violations of demonstrating some Christianity in an A.A. meeting, let's consider the spirit of the deal, shall we?  I don't think it's so much about cramming Christianity up anybody's ass as it's utilizing a wonderful prayer to close up a meeting.  Listen to the words in the prayer and see what they mean to you.  Do not the tennants of the prayer transcend any "brand" of religion and cite spiritual ideals that we can all put to use and practice? 

Our Father, which art in heaven.  Hallowed be thy name.
Thy kingdom come.  Thy will be done, in earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread.  And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive them that trespass against us. 
And lead us not into temptation; but deliver us from evil;
For thine is the kingdom, the power, and the glory, for ever and ever.

Amen.

I love this prayer and this prayer is why I believe that Jesus and Christianity kicks the dog-fuck out of all other religions.  An eye for an eye?  Really?  Strap bombs to yourself?  Wow.  Not to say the United States of America is acting so Christian when they/we meddle in Middle East affairs... if someone smites you, give them our left cheek as well, and if someone persecutes you to go a mile, go with him twine and all that shit.  Sounds to me like the US of A goes Old Testament once in a while.

I have an A.A. book that says we are to "see where religious people are right and to make use of what they offer."  Not to piss and moan about it being the wrong brand and that if I say a Christian prayer, I'll get Jesus Cooties and be damned to Eternal Damnation.

The prayer has some good stuff in it and if you don't like it, I encourage you to ask yourself why.  It perfectly states many of the paradoxes of life and a path to the spiritual life which the A.A. program is all about. 

If you're an atheist or an anti-Christ, I say you should try something besides A.A. anyway, because you'll never make it past the 2nd Step if you don't change your mind and waste the time and thankless love poured onto you from a potential sponsor.

Are you a fucking Alcoholic or are you a fucking Atheist or are you a fucking Jew?  Make up your mind.  If you're a Jew, wonderful!  Why do you drink too much?  Missing something?  Maybe your faith can save you.  Why go to A.A.?  Tell the courts it's against your religion and find an alternative.

Now... to the Jew-Alcoholic thing.  I personally have seen a Jew in A.A. before.  He was from Denver and his name was Gene.  He was a crazy fuck.  A loveable and crazy smart pious fuck!  He was also a recovered alcoholic.  He one time helped me to experience Jesus Christ when I was in the spiritual desert.  Figure that one out.

I believe the tennants of "Under the Influence by James Robert Milam and Katherine Ketcham.  They say that Italians and Jews are alcoholic, but minimally... as in down to the baseline 10%, whereas other cultures have it more prevalently... like the Native American and American Eskimos.  The premise is that the former have been around alcohol many thousands of years, like maybe 7500+ years, whereas, the latter has been around the strong distilled liquor some few or several hundred years, so their alcoholics have not died off yet... to get to that baseline of 10%

If you don't believe that, great. You and I disagree.

If you forgo a meeting because they say the Lord's Prayer, I say too bad.  I knew a guy who was Christian and had a hard time with the prayer because people fucked it up.  They said it wrong, so he never recited the prayer.  He meditated during the prayer instead. 

He was right about them saying it wrong.  I react differently.  I say the prayer rightly as y'all say it wrong, but I don't make a big fucking deal about it.

Selfish self-centered egocentric fucks.




          

But obviously, we can't transmit something we haven't got.

So... what should we get?

Go get "it", right?

What is it?

To me, it is the fact that I don't want to drink booze nor do I want to do drugs/pills. 

Then the book goes on to say something about "See to it that your relationship with Him is right..."

"... and great events will come to pass for you and countless others."

-The Great Fact

God Bless Colorado Springs

Willful vs Willing

What do you think of that for a topic?

The caveat is, you have to describe it as it applies to you now... not someone else nor a "less sober" you.

Anybody want to discuss?

Page 69

...and now about sex.

I'm on a straight pepper diet myself. How about y'all?

My first wife and I met in a bar. I was on the wagon at the time and just there to socialize and play pool.

She was evidently there to drink... and meet guys like me. So we married and I drank again and it was wonderful... until the State of Colorado told me yet again... that I ought to do something about my drinking.

So off to A.A. and I got sober. As I sobered up we grew apart and she left my sober ass. That's right.

Funny thing happened though... I drank over the bitch which was unnessessary... and I sobered up again... went back to a bar... to play pool and socialize... and I met "Her". MrsGowdog. She liked the sober me so I married her... because she liked me. What a fucking concept, huh? Today, I befriend people who like me... and who arent sick-fuck dickholes. A.A. taught me this.

Well as she found out about my past and what a drinker I was... she decided to inform me that if I'd ever pull that shit on her, I or she would be out the door and that would be it.

Well that didn't matter to me because I was sober... for going on three years.

But I drank again. I called her from jail and reminded her what she had said. She changed her mind. She told me that I knew what I needed to do... get back to A.A. and get sober again. So that's what I did and here we are 13 years later and me continuously sober 8 plus years.

BTW, she's never seen me drunk because me being the real alcoholic that I am knows to not shit where you sleep... even while enibriated.

Y'all maybe different from me... but that's y'alls problem not mine.