Saturday, January 22, 2011
The Great Tony J Experiment
FTG (in her mind)
Well, it looks as if The Tony J Experiment has come to an end.
I'm blocked from ST again. No explanation or warnings this time.
As best as I can tell I questioned why they hate Chris R so much and that's one of the arbitrary, unspoken and always moving lines that I'm not allowed to cross.
Which is fine. I was pretty happy not being allowed to post there anyway. I have better things to do with my time.
All in all I say the experiment was a success. One person willing to argue facts and not allow the anti-AA's to shame him can't be talked down.
The only possible response is to kill the opposistion. They did it to John the Baptist. Hell, they even did it to Jesus.
Although unlike Jesus, I would probably throw one of them off a subway platform if the heat of the moment.
The point is, telling the truth to a spiritually dead crowd doesn't get you a thank you note.
Still, I can't say I hate them. I can't even say I have a resentment. I did what I had to do and now they've made it easy for me to move on.
So I shared at my men's meeting last night. I told them the site and the deal and got some good feedback.
One guy said, there are 5 billion people in the world and there's a group for everything. Good point. There are maybe 100 people on st. About a dozen regulars.
12 vs 2,000,000.
One guy shared about prayer and meditation and working with another alcoholic. I realized when I'm dicking around on st I'm not praying, meditating or working with another.
A few people shared on self righteousness. Yeah. The very same thing that pisses me off about the st crew is what fuels my arguments.
So, in conclusion, they are what they are. They only mean anything to me when I chose to read what they write.
So hopefully this little 5th/10th step thingy I'm doing here will help me get this crusade behind me so I can move on to better things.
Will it ? Who knows? That's why I'm praying on it. I know myself too well to trust myself.
I do know I was right when I repeated the little quip on the mental health blog. When you wrestle with a pig, you both get dirty and the pig likes it.
Joe Cool Says :
"AA's been around time and will be around long after we're gone. I don't care about Orange, MFHA, Peele, or any other critic of the program. The tradition says that we don't engage in public controversy, so I don't get into pissing contests with morons who don't know wtf they're talking about. Especially morons who aren't alcoholics and have nfi about the experience of alcoholism and recovery. "
Yup. Joe has said all that really needs to be said.
Do I have a 'right' as an individual to express my opinions and argue with the anti-AA people ? Sure.
Is it a worthwhile effort ? No. Not when I'm honest with myself.
And Joe hits the nail on the head. They quite simply aren't alcoholics. If they were they'd understand what we're talking about. Even if they didn't agree with us, they'd understand.
And my business as far as AA is concerned is with alcoholics. Good post Joe.