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Sunday, January 2, 2011

Thank You Again DeConstructor!

Now Featuring Stinkin' Thinkin's very own ***edited***!


Whenever the anti/XAers in cyberworld pull up the topic of predators and sexual abuse/exploitation, Stinkin' Thinkin' Cheerleader/author DeConstructor is there to meet the call.


If I'm not mistaken, this is one of those honks from the now defunct ExposeAA website where they drummed up a story of sexual deviance in an A.A. meeting where a guy supposedly brought his mom to a meeting and had to overhear another guy talk about wanting to have sex with his own mom.  Then he mocked the A.A. slogans by showing signs such as,

One Mom At A Time

and sick fucking shit like that.  Here are some of the folks who supported that sick Youtube effort, btw;

Blamethenile, aka Mike
Stanton Peele, the Audrey Kishline apologist
Hammersley, youtube retard
Isegoria
Godlessweasel
AzzholesAnonymous
2pWorth
LifeSober
Gunthar2009
Go-Go RACH
etc.

Anyway, this is an example of DeConstructor's recent work;

DeConstructor says: It is DUMPING people. It gives the face saving reasoning to society that the court did everything it could, and repeat customers to the court are simply labeled as people who do not “Get it”


There is also a chance that this judge actually believes the misinformation that AA promotes as many of the people in this forum (including me) believed for a lot of years.


The AA faith has not really had any negative press until the last few years, and had only great press for decades. This is a respected American Institution.


We can do this. We can influence change, and perhaps even destruction of this cult and its profitable industry. However, it should be always understood the enormity of this undertaking.


I think many of us should communicate with this judge, and inform her of the dangers of the AA faith. We should make it known that if she continues to sentence people to the AA faith, aware of the inherent dangers, that we will hold her accountable, and will inform the world should any of her sentencees be murdered, raped, swindled, or suicides.
Now... someone... an anti/XAer with a lick of sense responds to these folks over there like Gunthar and DeConstructor;

jhtepper says @Gunthar2000


It is sad but true. I stated “within reason”. Your anger is clouding your reasoning. I said it, your parents said it, your teachers said it, judges will say it because it is true. Take some time away from ST and google constitutional rights of minors in the US. An example would be the summary searching of school lockers without a warrant even though their is a reasonable expectation of privacy. For someone over 18 in the public, such a search would clearly be a violation of the 4th Amendment’s prohibition against unreasonable searches and seizures yet all challenges have failed.

You people actually look to shut A.A. down this year, don't you?  If this is what you really really would like to do... if you really really really want to destroy A.A., here's your best shot...
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35 comments:

  1. That is the plan. I, and I do not think any of the others, did not put a time limit on it.

    The readership of stinkin-thinkin.com is increasing at an exponentional level. Yes, it is a goal to expose the dangers and inefficacy of the AA faith to the world, to expose the fact that people are being forced and coerced to convert to the AA faith, and to expose its profitable arm, the 17 billion dollar recovery industry cartel.

    I do not know how long this will take. I do know we have the people and the patience to make it happen.

    We have the facts on our side. In the information age, it will be impossible for the AA faith to continue its dangerous lies, cover the blood on its hands, and continue to conceal the bloodshed that happens from the increased suicides, deaths of innocents from drunk driving incidents, and the continuing rapes of newcomers and their children.

    Yes these people that sentence people to participate and convert to the AA faith need to be held responsible. Yes, their names will be published online, if they have been advised on the dangers of the AA faith and continue to sentence people to this madness.

    Yes, those judges, EAP, social workers etc. have a personal liability in this. Yes, we intend to publish their names at various places on the internet, explaining these individuals were advised of the inherent dangers of the AA faith, and were advised of the murders, suicides, rapes, and swindles that occur there and are regularly documented at www.stinkin-thinkin.com.

    Yes we are going to kill this cult.

    Have a serene day.

    DeCon

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  2. YOU FORGOT TO ADD MY NAME TO LIST UP THERE: Go-Go Rach. Yeah, I'm the one who spent 21 years FLOUNDERING in THE CULT, while I was brutalized, attacked molested, stolen from, taken advantage of, AND BEST OF ALL assaulted by my A.A. sponsor. YOU BET I AM BRINGING THIS FILTH DOWN. READ ALL ABOUT MY WONDERFUL EXPERIENCE HERE: http://gogorach.com

    "GOD" bless you POWERLESS DRONES!

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  3. Thank you for the explanation.

    If what you say is true, I should quit A.A. and join you.

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  4. OK, you're in gogorach.

    I want you guys to tell me exactly where these meetings you go to are. Serious. I will go there and crack some skulls. Especially based on what's happened to you Rach. I would never let that happen to you, let alone for 20 years. Your life sounds harder than a Chinese concubine.

    I want to know if you folks can find any meetings for me in Colorado. I will go there myself and see... these goings on.

    You would perhaps say I'm such a DRONE that I wouldn't notice or am perhaps one of these bad people. I'm not. I assure you.

    I am going to a meeting tonight here in Pueblo Colorado where the chair-picker is a guy who will be receiving a cake for 32 years sober. My wife was knee-high to a grasshopper when he came to A.A. My birthday is next. We just do cake. We don't do chips. I haven't been to my meeting in over a month due to a night work schedule. I'm back on days and can attend tonight.

    I wish the anti/XAs and the proAAs could get together for a volleyball tournament or something. Some fun in the sun to discuss this.

    If we're really this bad, something needs to be done. Couldn't we help?

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  5. I hope you guys "bring down" the AA you love to bash, matter of fact I'd like to see about 90% of what passes as AA die. Just a brief sidenote, what you passionately hate and bash isn't actually AA or solid AA's, just a bunch of misguided idiots and scumbags, world is full of them, best of luck with your quest.

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  6. Well what passes as AA is required, as sentencing, by courts, employers, social services, and organ transplant teams that are withholding organs for failing to participate and convert to the AA faith.

    Perhaps this is not the REAL AA, although the argument sounds strikingly similar to those of us in the anti/XA community who are now called "not REAL alcoholics"

    Nobody seems to really ask if someone is a REAL alcoholic when they are in the hotseat of an intervention, many times with an interventionist who is making a lot of money, for evangelizing for the AA faith professionally.

    I guess that, and the 17 billion dollar industry they represent are not the REAL AA.

    It is nice that RoB B agrees with us on that point. I would stop my campaign against the AA faith, if it were a voluntary group in a church basement somewhere doin their thing.

    We all know that is not the case, and according to corporate AA (AAWS) over 65% of AA newcomers are coerced by some sentencing agency to be there. I think we all would agree that CRIMINALS mixing with persons sharing their secrets and vulnerabilities is not a good idea and very bad things can and do happen.

    So until that day comes, it will be game on with the AA faith and the recovery industry cartel. In addition to holding sentencing agencies and personnel accountable in the case of crime or injury against a sentenced person, we will also be starting a campaign informing people that are sentenced to the AA faith that they are NOT bound to the confidentiality "suggestion"

    We will recommend that anyone sentenced to AA speak freely, in public and private, about who was at the AA meetings and any information that these people may have said at the meetings.

    Under the US judicial system there should be no need to keep anything confidential, and everything at the meeting should be publicized as public information.

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  7. The message the good folks at ST should be spreading is to sign your own court papers. Here, I'll show you how.

    From Tradition #3
    "Any two or three alcoholics gathered together for sobriety may call themselves an A.A. Group, provided that, as a group, they have no other affiliation".

    From Tradition #4
    With respect to its own affairs, each A.A. group should be responsible to no other authority than its own conscience.

    From Tradition #5
    Each Alcoholics Anonymous group ought to be a spiritual entity having but one primary purpose-that of carrying its message to the alcoholic who still suffers.

    So there you have it.
    #3 says you simply have to get together. Any two or three alcoholics are fine. Just call yourselves an alcoholic like most posers do in meetings.
    #4 says you can meet in a bar. Nobody ever said Church Basement. Meetings actually started out in peoples homes. Nobody said it had to be an hour and nobody ever said you had to drink Coffee.
    #5 says you can talk about whatever you want with the loophole "It's" message. "It's" message can be Fishing or Nascar.

    Now comes the hard part. Let's go back to #3
    "gathered together for sobriety"

    "Sobriety" is defined as "The Freedom from Alcohol through the Practice and Teaching of the Twelve Steps"

    So here you have to be gathered for Sobriety through the practice and teaching of the Twelve Steps in order to call yourselves an AA Group.

    You're in Luck. I have an answer for that too.
    Simply hold up your beer glass in your meeting and state
    "This stuff just kicks my ass" and it's a done deal. You're in.

    Since you're "Anonymous" you can simply sign your own court cards and your commitment to the Court is over and done.

    Now the real sad part is if anyone hasn't figured that one out by now, there's no way they can be a real alcoholic. In fact that's probably just a test from the Court. If you actually go to those meetings without being crafty enough to have found a back door method there's no way you can be a "Real" Alcoholic.

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  8. Proponents of THE CULT always love to blame the meetings I went to, but you are wrong. I've been to thousands of meetings all across the country, from Boston to California. It's all the same because the program is based on the same Dogmatic LIES that will never help a person get well.

    Alcoholics Anonymous and other twelve step programs are a forever sentence to REHAB or a hospital because people never learn how to take responsibility for themselves, their lives, or their emotions.

    Instead you are encouraged to admit and accept powerlessness over a problem that can be solved if a person is taught how to grow up. Then you are expected to turn your will and your life over to your "HIGHER POWER," and people with more time and experience in the program who are just as sick as they were when they walked in the door because they believe the lies.

    If there is a "GOD" I cannot imagine that he/she/it would be happy about how the Twelve Steps control the free will we were supposedly given by him. I'm pretty sure it was meant to be used in a way that is productive, useful and helpful. THE CULT tries to control problems that would be solved if ever dealt with properly.

    The only thing time in THE CULT offers is more experience spewing the DOGMA and a respect granted by new members that is not deserved because you are not well.

    The worst thing about THE CULT is how it takes it's victims at our weakest points. You and me where brought in when we were at our worst, then encouraged to believe we remain sick forever.

    Try living life not controlled your emotions (i.e. Powerlessness is a FEELING not a FACT), without the filter of THE CULT, then you will have something I want to hear.

    I'm glad my sponsor attacked me. Walking away from THE CULT was the best thing that has ever happened to me in my life. Finally, I am free to do what I want, when I want, with whomever I want. I've never been happier in my life. I intend to share my gift with the world.

    I see that you care about people and you really believe what you do is good, so I have kept my typical snark out of this comment, but I need to let you know one thing. When you mention your wife was "knee high to a grasshopper" when you met, it does make me wonder if she was the child of one of your fellow CULT members the first time you laid eyes on her.

    Just sayin'.

    Have a nice day.
    Go-Go Rach

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  9. Oh, I forgot to mention, it would be great if CULT MEMBERS could get together with escapees for a day to talk about how you "could help," but I'm afraid that would not work as long as you are of the "powerless mindset."

    I'm afraid you are ill-equipped to contribute to any type of productive conversation as long as you believe you need a program to control you.

    Here's a suggestion, why don't you just walk away from THE CULT? That would surely help you and everyone else around you. Just imagine what it would be like to make your own decisions based on what you want out of life?

    Of course, you probably have some type of celebrity status with all of your "recovery," so you'll have to drum up your self-esteem elsewhere. For example, *gasp* performing your own good deeds!

    We sure appreciate your offer, though.

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  10. Go Go
    How the hell can you say this
    "Proponents of THE CULT always love to blame the meetings I went to, but you are wrong. I've been to thousands of meetings all across the country, from Boston to California. It's all the same because the program is based on the same Dogmatic LIES that will never help a person get well".

    Blah, Blah, Blah... Everyone that was indoctrinated like you has taken AAs "suggestions" to the best of their ability and lived by the Book.

    Hogwash.,. had you done so this kind of mindless spew wouldn't come out of your mouth.

    "Oh, I forgot to mention, it would be great if CULT MEMBERS could get together with escapees for a day to talk about how you "could help," but I'm afraid that would not work as long as you are of the "powerless mindset."


    The entire gist of AA is helping others. The ones of the mindset that AA is a place to go bullshit and hang out are the ones that need to be reminded of the fact that they have a responsibility to AA.
    In a thread on another forum (SR) I'm getting beat up by the losers that think AA is a social club for Americas Misfits. It's not!!

    You shirked any resemblance of responsibility you may have had by playing the victim.

    "Oh!!! AA did this to me"
    Well it's obvious you didn't do your part either. As well as your cronies over at ST.
    My money says they simply took up space in Club Type Meetings and never got into the meat of the Program.

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  11. No Karl the "entire gist of AA is helping others" is simply another of the AA faith's lies.

    The real purpose of AA is to fit (ourselves)to be of maximum service to god (BB pg 77)

    It is also to recruit to new members, via court liasons or shatever it takes to recruit new members, which in turn sell new AA books, in addition to crap that Hazelden publishes. It is also to declare people diseased, and their families with the diagnosing of the concocted terms of "co-dependent" and "enabler" this constantly fill the seats with people that are ready and recruit for the 17 billion dollar recovery industry cartel.

    But most of all the real purpose of AA is to bring fresh young meat for the old gurus to 13th step.

    It sickens me that people continue to die via suicides, drunk driving incidents, and documented binge drinking as they do. Unfortunately, since the AA faith continues to promote the faulty disease model of addiction, people continue to die and kill others.

    There is nothing worse a person can do than drink while under the influence of the AA faith.

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  12. Sure the entire gist of AA is "helping others" only it doesn't help. It hurts because it encourages people to remain sick under the powerless mindset.

    I have been victimized by the program, I know it, the people who hurt me know it and now all of the people who are reading my blog, following me on twitter and facebook know it. When I get on TELEVISION, the world will know it.

    You can scream all you want at me, I'm still gonna talk about it and get the word out because twelve step programs are a dangerous cult that needs to be stopped.

    If the "meat of the program" is hanging out with my sponsor (16 years of sobriety), pouring my heart out to her and everyone else, using the book to work the steps in the way it is laid out, while I went to two meetings a day, prayed, called other alcoholics and sponsored people, then yeah, I worked the program. I can even tell ya the true difference between selfish and self seeking. CAN YOU? I doubt it!

    Steps four and five are the SICKEST part of YOUR CULT. I wrote the FOUR columns from page 65 in the book. I wrote my resentments, examined how it affected my SELF ESTEEM, PERSONAL RELATIONS, SEX RELATIONS, SECURITY, AMBITIONS. Then wrote my part: ANGER, FEAR, SELFISH, DISHONEST, SELF-SEEKING. Then sat with "GOD" to make sure I had got them all out. Then became willing to have these defects removed, asked that they be removed, took my list of persons I had harmed and became willing to make amends to then all, then made amends to every single person on that list.

    I continued to pray and meditate going in order to improve my relationship with my "higher power." I was coffee maker, secretary, treasurer, GSR, etc. Is that what you mean? Then yeah, I worked that program OVER AND OVER, while I was victimized, ostracized and attacked many times by the scum bags who populate the halls of Twelve Step programs.

    Yet, I still went, until enough was enough. I got out. I am happy, I take responsibility for myself and my life. I am not wallowing in powerlessness and I have no desire to hurt myself in anyway ever again.

    The "meat" of the program is a LIE. All I knew or thought about while I was in those rooms was how pathetic me and the people I was stuck hanging out with were.

    Powerlessness is a feeling. Get over it. Grow up. Get a life. Move on. I did and I am better for it, and so are countless others who have managed to get out alive, unlike too many of my friends.

    Good luck,
    Go-Go Rach

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  14. I have a new policy.
    From now on I will no longer waste mt time on useless blogs like McBlowdog's. My words will serve the cause better in public journals, newspaper articles, or maybe even real blogs.
    If you've heard on McBlowdog, or one cousin Karl you've heard them all. McBlowdog is a fuckin' liar anyway. He presents things out of context and deletes replies that make him look like the weezledick that he really is. He's a fuckin liar... What else should we expect from a cult zombie?

    This is how I look at it... If I once had leprosy, and now I'm cured, why would I want to visit the leper colony? there's nothing but sickness here folks. Alcoholism was never a disease... AA is a disease.

    No offense but I'd rather hang out with the normies. Now, if you'll excuse me... I must be on... my... way.

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  15. *high five* stinkin! I'm with ya! I'm outta here too!

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  16. Deconstructor :

    "The real purpose of AA is to fit (ourselves)to be of maximum service to god (BB pg 77)"

    Is that the quote, in context ?

    You're telling the world the truth, right ?
    Not your own made up bullshit....because that would make you just as bad as you say Bill Wilson is, wouldn't it ?

    Stinkin Gunthar :

    " McBlowdog is a fuckin' liar anyway. He presents things out of context and deletes replies that make him look like the weezledick that he really is. He's a fuckin liar... What else should we expect from a cult zombie?"

    Is that a fact ? What has he deleted and where exactly is he lying ?

    It's not like he takes passages of the BB out of context or anything......

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  17. Just like AA is a parasite to the churches, so is McBlowdog to the Stinkin' Thinkin' blog. Without us he'd be nothing. In fact half of his blog is just stuff he cut and pasted from ST.

    If you want to see the real action, leave this McBlodog fruitcake here and visit us at...
    stinkin-thinkin.com (don't forget the dash)

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  18. I left and realized I skipped THE MOST IMORTANT STEPS! *gasp, what was I thinkin? A.A. would be NOTHING without the FIRST THREE!

    1. I admitted I was POWERLESS (over everything including myself, people, places and things, never able to make a single decision, without consulting fellow cult members and "GOD" first) and that my life had become unmanageable

    *DOH* this is a NO BRAINER - drink/drugging constantly doesn't help one get much done!


    2. Came to believe (actually I was FORCED) a Power GREATER than myself could restore me to sanity (I believed, I believed! I even proved it when I spent five nights a week in Church, on top of AA, then threw out my prized and valuable BUDDHA collection in a dumpster on GOOD FRIDAY - I swore "GOD" told me to!)

    3. Turned my will and my life over to the care of "GOD" as I understood him.

    Eventually, I understood GOD REALLY SUCKS ASS because I was not getting any better. Then, I came to my senses and realized I don't really know about "GOD" and neither does anyone else, so I will let the big man speak for himself when and IF that day comes).

    Now I observe my feelings and act accordingly because I am adult who has and will always take responsibilities for my actions.

    In A.A. I believed a lie. I allowed people to treat me badly and kept quiet about the ones who hurt me as a kid. Now I know better. I feel sad for you guys that you don't see it.

    Of course, we cannot ignore the fact that A.A. helps 3% of the people who enter the rooms. These are the ones who are either drama queens or idiots limiting life to nothing but wasted time talking about and avoiding a stupid substance you chose to use to avoid your FEELINGS. I don't need anyone to tell me what to do.

    *CHEERS*

    XXX
    GGR

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  19. Rach. I'm really sorry you saw fit to have a sponsor for 16 years. The Sponsors job is to take you through the steps. Nothing more. In 16 years you didn't figure that out??

    Shows me you didn't spend any time in the book, working the program and the dreaded Step #3 where you turned your will and your life to the care of God as you understand God. Instead you turned your will and your life to the care of some sick sponsor. For 16 fucking years. Then you have the gall to blame AA for this?? That's not what the book says.
    My Sponsor took me through the steps, passed on what he knew and we became friends after that.

    I see it all the time.
    "My mothers coming to visit, I better check with my sponsor"

    You(that's right, you!) had a responsibility to correct the flaws from the inside. Instead you display textbook alcoholic behavior by leaving, blaming AA and bitching about how they fucked up your life.

    You and your type are part of the problem in AA and it's probably best you left.

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  20. The message the good folks at ST should be spreading is to sign your own court papers. Here, I'll show you how.

    From Tradition #3
    "Any two or three alcoholics gathered together for sobriety may call themselves an A.A. Group, provided that, as a group, they have no other affiliation".

    From Tradition #4
    With respect to its own affairs, each A.A. group should be responsible to no other authority than its own conscience.

    From Tradition #5
    Each Alcoholics Anonymous group ought to be a spiritual entity having but one primary purpose-that of carrying its message to the alcoholic who still suffers.

    So there you have it.
    #3 says you simply have to get together. Any two or three alcoholics are fine. Just call yourselves an alcoholic like most posers do in meetings.
    #4 says you can meet in a bar. Nobody ever said Church Basement. Meetings actually started out in peoples homes. Nobody said it had to be an hour and nobody ever said you had to drink Coffee.
    #5 says you can talk about whatever you want with the loophole "It's" message. "It's message can be Fishing or Nascar.

    Now comes the hard part. Let's go back to #3
    "gathered together for sobriety"

    "Sobriety" is designed as "The Freedom from Alcohol through the Practice and Teaching of the Twelve Steps"

    So here you have to be gathered for Sobriety through the practice and teaching of the Twelve Steps in order to call yourselves an AA Group.

    You're in Luck. I have an answer for that too.
    Simply hold up your beer glass in your meeting and state
    "This stuff just kicks my ass" and it's a done deal. You're in.

    Since you're "Anonymous" you can simply sign your own court cards and your commitment to the Court is over and done.

    Now the real sad part is if anyone hasn't figured that one out by now, there's no way they can be a real alcoholic. In fact that's probably just a test from the Court. If you actually go to those meetings without being crafty enough to have found a back door method there's no way you can be a "Real" Alcoholic.

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  22. Is this better?

    Gunthar2000 was here.

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  23. Just thought I'd let ya know Karl that my sponsor had sixteen years, the most I ever was able to hang with was five years, then three and half, two, one, nine months, ix months, sthirty days. I'm one of those you file under to SMART for the program.

    Once I noticed your lack of education, I stopped reading. No offense.

    See ya.

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  24. Stinkin, why not just come out and identify yourself.

    You are Mike. Say hi to Tony while you're here.

    Go Go Rach, nice effort on the program and all, but you had a bad sponsor. Not your fault.

    You should have done a 3 column inventory like I do. The 4th column is one we don't do... or at least I don't do. After you share your 3rd column with another recovered alcoholic, you get to see some chunks of truth about yourself, if you're lucky. But usually, your own ego doesn't let you see much. "Once the ego gets a glimpse of virtue, it turns it into a vice."- Chuck C.

    You were basically a Service Lemming. Good for you, but zero points from me. It was your own pride that led you along. Two meetings a day? What the fuck? Are you bitching or bragging? Two meetings a day is pathetic. You should have told yourself back then, "Get a fucking life."

    You just seem like a drama queen victim to me, really. How could anybody be such a pissing post for every stay dog that walks by and what your story Made For The Oprah Winfrey Network!

    I can't wait to see you on T.V.? I can't wait to see the edition; Pigeons who's sponsors' screwed their spouse! Or... "A.A. made me stop all contact with my family, friends, and job.

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  25. Oh, Gunthar. That's right.

    Your new name here is Cunt-hair. At least that's got a purpose, unlike you.

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  26. I've fixed the error... Apparently I had created my blogger account using Stinkin' as my first name and Thinker as my last. I never created a posting handle, so here it is now.... I've fixed it.

    Yes the posts above by Stinkin' are me - Gunthar2000, many of you may know me as Donald T. Quinn. Friends call me Todd.

    As I said before... This blog sucks... The morons here can't even come up with their own material so they just cut and paste from stinkin-thinkin.com

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  27. Gunthar :

    "
    If you want to see the real action, leave this McBlodog fruitcake here and visit us at...
    stinkin-thinkin.com (don't forget the dash)
    "

    Yeah, yeah, been there done that.

    I've been banned from that site by your cult leaders for a year. Cult mind control doesn't allow for the free exchange of ideas.

    BTW, Dawg started this blog as a response to Stinkin Thinkin so it's only logical that he cuts and pastes from there.

    Go off half cocked and make irrational judgements much ?

    You're gonna save the world alright, we can tell.

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  28. Cut and paste from ST?? Well, I never!

    FYI
    This Blog started as a direct result of the Brain Surgeons at ST copying and pasting stuff from Soberecovery.Com so they could invent substance for their site.

    Some of us headlined in this "less than Sensational display of Ego for the masses of their own "Cult Following".

    I think MA and FTG are just jealous that Bill W. got more women than both of them combined.

    So, this is part of the bed the Holier than Thou Dolts at ST made for themselves.

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  29. Ha ha! You are banned! Fuck you!

    We allow for free exchange of ideas. As soon as you are able to stop the redundant useless slogan slime from swirling around in that tiny little head of yours I'm sure that someone will be willing to listen to you.

    For now I guess you'll have to share your rants with your three friends here, or maybe you can hijack the brain of a newbie or two at your local AA cult gatherings.

    See you in a year!

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  30. I got banned too. Tony got banned. Then I showed him how to change his IP address. Guess What!!! They banned me for that.

    I can well imagine one genius saying to the other genius "If we ban Ol Cuda he'll never be smart enough to change his IP address and get right back into this.
    [MA]"Good Job FTG, you showed him"[/MA]

    Truth is they were getting their asses handed to them. It took a little but all we had to do was to point out the misinformation, misquotes, fabrications, exaggerations, and deliberate lies by the masses at ST.

    God I tell ya. I've been at this for quite some time and I've never(and I do mean never) seen a fraction of the stuff the good folks at ST have. Where the hell do they get this material?

    I think they're delusional and thrive on the associated drama that comes with alcoholism. Then when they get tired of it or feel that their misfit asses don't belong in AA either, they blame AA. Then they invent stories that mask the fact that AA run their dumb asses out.
    I've seen them. People that just don't fit. They're square pegs looking for a place to belong. Naturally AA and Church are a safe haven because nobody gets kicked out. Then when they finally realize that they simply don't fit in there either they whimper off into the night blaming AA and inventing stories to justify their leaving.
    It's no different than getting dumped by a girl. You just develop this incessant desire to develop reasons (lie) about why you shitcanned the bitch.

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  31. Yeah. That's pretty much it.

    I don't like being cussed at and made fun of, but I push back too.

    When you stand up for yourself and speak the truth, you get kicked off of forums. Hell, some of you guys/gals know that. I credit you for being rebellions like some of us.

    There are up to 15 of us. Some of us still have accountability at soberrecovery and don't post here much.

    You go ask MA and cyber and speedy who started this shit with the cutting and the pasting. They did.

    We owe it all to them. And they owe it all to WWW.soberrecovery.com .

    You sit around and bitch about A.A. What else you got? Nothing. Prove to us your claims. Show us court cases of those who perpetrated crimes on you and tell us where this happened. Exactly which state, town, and address.

    Oh, and learn the book better. It says, "...God and the people about us." Big difference. You help God by helping yourself. You help yourself by helping those about you. Go back to spiritual romper room before you look at steps 1 2 or 3.

    Good luck! We'll pray for you. But we won't tell you... so we won't loss you off.

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  32. Damn droid editors. Droid sucks! Edit that.

    According to droid, ftg = cyber

    Pissed off = lossed off.

    Peaceout cybergurl.

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  33. Gunthar :

    "Ha ha! You are banned! Fuck you!

    We allow for free exchange of ideas. As soon as you are able to stop the redundant useless slogan slime from swirling around in that tiny little head of yours I'm sure that someone will be willing to listen to you."

    No Gunthar, Fuck You.

    I'm permanently banned, it's been a year since your leaders did it.

    They don't want anything but the cult party line over there. They originally wanted to have a couple of AA's to kick around but they didn't like it when we tore all their arguments to shreds and bitch slapped them on top of it.

    They did what all cult leader do to their opposition, they killed it.

    It's damned funny that you think AA is a cult and you're in an honest to goodness cult and don't even know it.

    BTW, was Gunthar that fat kid from Willy Wonka ?

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  34. No! That was Augustus Gloop!

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  35. Okay.

    I can just picture fat little Gunthar jumping into the beer vat and trying to drink it all up, then getting sucked into the tube.

    Then, as they're walking his lager drenched ass out of the factory, he does a classic soliloquy about how it was AA's fault.

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